I have sat in this meeting more times than I can count.
The founder arrives energised. Usually under or over-caffeinated. They have done some thinking and know the format they want; interviews. Somewhere between thirty and forty-five minutes. They already have a list of guests in mind. A few impressive names. A few friends. A few people they have been meaning to “pick the brains of” anyway.
Someone in their network started a podcast last year and swears it changed everything. Someone else said it would be great for the brand. Someone has already looked at microphones at midnight and fallen into a YouTube review spiral.
The momentum is there.
But somewhere in the first ten minutes, I usually ask a question that changes the temperature in the room a little:
“Who is this actually for?”
And very often, the room goes quiet.
Not because the founder is unprepared. Most are thoughtful, capable people. But because almost nobody asks this question early enough. They think about the show. They think about the guests. They think about the content machine the podcast could become.
They rarely think deeply enough about the listener. And that is normally where the problems begin.
Why Founders Start Podcasts
There are a few patterns I see over and over again.
The first is usually someone else’s idea.
A mentor, board member, consultant, or marketing lead says: “You should start a podcast.” Which, to be fair, is happening a lot these days.
The second is proximity.
Someone they admire has a podcast. A competitor has one. A founder friend has one. It seems smart. Credible. Current.
The third is content logic.
A podcast can become clips, articles, LinkedIn posts, newsletters, reels, keynote material. In theory, one recording becomes twenty pieces of content. Which sounds wonderfully efficient when written on a whiteboard.
And the fourth is visibility.
Podcasting still carries a certain weight. A podcast says something about a brand. It suggests thoughtfulness. Authority. Conversation. Whether that is always true is another discussion entirely.
None of these are bad reasons to explore podcasting. But none of them are audience reasons. That distinction matters more than most people realise.
What Founders Usually Lead With
When founders describe their podcast idea to me, there are a few phrases that appear almost every time.
“We know some really interesting people.”
“We have access to great conversations.”
“This could create amazing content for our channels.”
And they are not wrong. The problem is that these are production advantages, not audience strategy. A guest list is not an audience. Access is not demand. And a content pipeline is not the same thing as a show people genuinely choose to spend time with.
I say this gently because I have seen this movie before. Many times TBH.
A surprising number of podcasts often beome networking meetings with intro music.
If done intentionally, there is nothing wrong with that positioning.
The Question That Gets Skipped
There are four foundational questions I believe every podcast needs to answer before recording begins.
Why should this show exist? Why now? Why this host?
But the question that gets skipped most consistently is the simplest one.
Who is this for, specifically?
Not “business owners.” Not “people interested in leadership.” Not “moms with a side hustle.” Not “creatives.” Not “entrepreneurs across Africa.”
One person. A real, recognisable human being.
What are they trying to figure out right now? What kind of pressure are they under?
What do they already believe? What are they tired of hearing? What do they listen to while driving between meetings, sitting in traffic, waiting outside school for pickup, or finally finding ten quiet minutes at the end of a long day?
What would make that person press play?
Once you can answer that clearly, almost every other decision becomes easier.
Everything Flows From The Listener
Episode length becomes clearer. Tone becomes clearer. Guest selection becomes clearer. Even the publishing frequency becomes clearer.
If your listener is a founder trying to absorb useful ideas between meetings, a wandering ninety-minute conversation probably is not serving them, even if the guest is fascinating.
If your listener wants deep technical insight, surface-level inspiration will start feeling thin very quickly.
Without a clearly defined listener, every episode becomes a guess.
The topics drift. The guest list becomes whoever is available and conversations slowly become broader and safer. Eventually the show starts sounding like every other podcast in the category.
A Guest List Is Not a Strategy
This is probably the hardest shift for founders to make. Because having access to interesting people feels like the strategy. And to be fair, it is a meaningful asset.
But audiences do not return because you know impressive people.
They return because the show consistently helps them think, feel, solve, laugh, learn, or see differently. The best podcasts are not built around the host’s network. They are built around the listener’s needs.
The guests serve the listener.
The format serves the listener.
The recurring questions serve the listener.
Everything points outward. Not inward.
That is the difference between a podcast that grows quietly over years and one that fades after twelve episodes and a slightly exhausted LinkedIn post about “taking a pause for now.”
Something shifts when a founder becomes genuinely clear about the listener. The guest list stops being a social inventory and starts becoming intentional.
Instead of: “Who can we get?”
The question becomes: “Who would genuinely help our listener move forward?”
That is a very different filter. The show becomes more focused. More consistent. More useful. Ironically, it often becomes more interesting too. Because specificity creates resonance.
The founders, creatives and leaders who build lasting podcasts are usually not the loudest people. They are the clearest. They understand exactly who they are speaking to, and they make that person feel considered every single episode.
Listeners can feel the difference. Even if they cannot explain it.
A Show Without A Listener Is Just a Monologue
Most podcasts do not fail because of bad equipment. Or weak branding. Or imperfect editing. They fail because they were never designed for anyone in particular.
Face it. Content made for everyone usually reaches no one.
A podcast without a clearly defined listener becomes a monologue. Sometimes a beautifully produced monologue, admittedly. Nice microphones. Lovely lighting. Thoughtful logo. Still a monologue.
Eventually the host runs out of momentum because the feedback loop never really forms. The audience never quite arrives. And the show starts feeling harder to make than it should. All because the foundation was unclear from the beginning.
The most important work in podcasting happens before the first guest is booked.
Before the studio session. Before the artwork. Before someone starts researching cameras they absolutely do not need yet. It starts with one uncomfortable but necessary question:
Who is this really for, specifically? And why would that person come back next week?
If you cannot answer that clearly yet, do not rush to record.
Sit with the question a little longer.
It is doing more work than you think.
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